Endo Valley

Posted on 11. May, 2011 by B3 in News

A few weeks ago Dave Graham, Jon Cardwell, and Diego Lopez Montull were driving in RMNP and decided to take a look for some new rock. They took a new way into the Park, and stumbled upon a nice collection of large granite boulders, tucked away in the pines. An imposing and complex polished cliff loomed over head. This small and unique sector was about to become the newest addition to a long line of great areas in RMNP.

Paul Otis, (who found the area) Jim Belcer, Bryce Klinikowski, Jon Linhart and others developed a few problems at this cluster in 2005. One of the highlights included Jim Belcer’s Danger Zone V7. Not much had been done there recently and our crew got to work immediately. I have now been there 4 days, and every day we walk around looking for new lines, cleaning off potential lines, and trying all manner of new boulders.

There are a number of outstanding projects and new problems:

The first and most significant is the big roof. This is an excellent line that could be potentially 4 stars. It is one of the best problems in Colorado and probably weighs in around V14. All the moves have been done. I would love to put a serious effort into this incredible line this year.

Dave tries the amazing roof project.

Sunday Ian Dory made the FA of Cambrian Explosion V10, an excellent power problem just left of the roof. A hard undercling move leads to the sloping finish of Ol’ Boy’s Club V7 FA Chad Greedy. I nearly got the FA of Cambrian Explosion and did the second ascent not long after Dory’s FA. The line was then repeated by Brian Capps, Dave Graham and Jeff Sillcox. Ian seems to be stepping up his developing game, as he has cleaned a number of new lines and climbed several moderately difficult problems. This winter Ian made an ascent of Esperanza V14 in Hueco Tanks.

Brian Capps sends Cambrian Explosion V10. In this position, he is two hand moves into the problem, which starts matched on right facing crimp edge. The first move is to a good gaston for the right hand.

Today Ian also added a new line right of the big roof called Chewbacca V11. I did the second ascent right after Ian. This is a great compression line with a difficult crux stab out to a sloping edge. Jon Cardwell did the 3rd ascent soon after. This problem starts underclinging a large feature.

Early this month Dave added a very difficult compression line up from the roof called Glow in the Dark Estrellas V14. This starts a on good left hand incut and a right hand on an arete and climbs gigantic moves on stellar rock up an overhanging prow. It is unrepeated. Dave also added a very nice rounded prow called Extra Alienated V9. This has seen a number of repeats, with Isabelle Faus making the FFA.

Nic Oklobzija sends Extra Alienated V9

There are also a number good moderates. Gustavo Moser, Chad Greedy and others have been developing the easier lines. There may be 100 new problems here when all is said and done. It’s been supremely motivating to have a new area to run around. The vibe has typically been great, with a number of people hanging from ropes cleaning new boulders. Dave again is spearheading the effort. Unfortunately, he is leaving soon for Europe. Maybe some of the Colorado locals can step up and do some of the developing?

It looks as though Endo Valley will be in season just before and just after the Park season proper. It sits at an elevation of around 8,900 ft. This was all rediscovered too late for me to properly add it to the guide, so I will do my best to record what has been done and perhaps produce a supplement in a few years. Regardless, it is incredibly motivating to have these pure, massive granite boulders to climb on again.

The crew enjoys the end of a long day.

Dave Graham and Ian Dory, two of the developers of Endo Valley who have lead the way.

If anyone has any info about problems that were established in previous years, or have been recently established, feel free to post comments!

82 Responses to “Endo Valley”

Paul D.

11. May, 2011

Beau, Cam and I hit the Endo a few weeks ago with DG and Diego – most of the boulders were still covered in snow and ice but we managed to clean a fun, crimpy V4 warm-up we dubbed Spina Bifida – it climbs a short steep roof between the main roof project and Glow In The Dark Estrellas (which Dave was prepping that day). We also scoped and did a bit of cleaning on what is now Extra Alienated – I was super psyched on this line and a few others but didn’t have a chance to get back to the rigs before the bigger crews arrived. Super psyched on this area! Perfect granite! I need to get my ass back up there before all the lines are plucked. Thanks to Dave once again for his vision and endless psyche…
Adam M

11. May, 2011

Awesome. So much rock around this state. Nice climbing guys.

(Hey Jamie, when you coming up to Vail to start work? If you guys need a hand with anything or want to go out for a beer, let me know.)

P.S. It’s snowing right now pretty hard, but will be warmer starting tomorrow!
Andrew

11. May, 2011

Jamie, very excited to see some more “sub” Alpine areas going up.

You said, ” Maybe some of the Colorado locals can step up and do some of the developing?”

I found the Endo Valley Campground on Google, is this the right area? Any directions would be helpful. I’d love to contribute in some fashion.

Thanks,
Andrew
Connor

11. May, 2011

Let us not forget the ten-star highball V5/8, ROAD POCKET! What a fantastic ending to a superb Sunday. Very nice to climb with you and the huge crew up there!
B3

11. May, 2011

@Connor Sunday was great! Glad you made it out. I found out that Road Pocket was climbed by the original developers in 2005. Regardless, it’s great to see everyone so motivated.
James

11. May, 2011

Ian has only a month left in the states as well…..I expect him to put more stuff up before he leaves…..I have chalked up a lot of lines too….all need the send….
NIetzsche

12. May, 2011

Jamie,
You did a nice job describing the starting holds and helping others be consistent with your ethics about starting holds. Could you describe the starting holds for Extra Alienated V9?
Danny B

12. May, 2011

Awesome e-mail vid. Be back to CO in less than a month.
B3

12. May, 2011

Extra Alienated starts standing on a good flat hold. It is an obvious stand start.
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Nietzsche

12. May, 2011

ha… obvious….
B3

12. May, 2011

Fine TOM, stand start, matched on a somewhat flat hold at around 5.5 ft. This hold is large enough to accomodate both hands, although it is a somewhat tight fit for someone who is 5’10″ and weighs roughly 145 pounds and has what would be considered smaller hands. There are no other reasonably useable or chalked* holds below the above described starting hold. In the photo, the hold is mostly obscured by Nic’s left leg, although part of the chalk on the hold is visible along Nic’s left thigh. I was using the word obvious because I am too busy writing the guidebook to provide the more specific description which you now have.

*By chalked I mean that the hold appears as though it has been grabbed by a number of other climbers. It does not refer to the small amount of chalk that remains on miniscule footholds from the cleaning process.
Flashgordon

13. May, 2011

RE: “Maybe some of the Colorado locals can step up and do some of the developing?”

I’m a Colorado local, but I’m too busy developing other areas. I’m sure there are others out there like me. More in RMNP and adjacent lands just like this. Good to see this area getting developed.
B3

13. May, 2011

@Flashgordon I would love to hear about some of your areas!
Nietzsche

13. May, 2011

I hope everyone got a good laugh out of that…
J Seaver

13. May, 2011

I’m getting a good laugh out of all you guys. Patting each other on the back about “discovering” a “new” area that locals have been visiting and developing for half a decade. I know, I know……….our lack of double digit sending skills make our efforts inconsequential.
My giggles are tempered by sadness though. I suppose this formerly quiet, and idyllic, after-work destination for us will now go the way of Chaos Canyon. Overridden by shirtless pebblers; dozens of crashpads stuffed thoughtlessly under every boulder; a straight-up nasty scene, full of spraylords and video cameras.
The silver lining: I stand to make some extra cash selling “forgotten” crashpads on craigs list this summer.
Adam M

13. May, 2011

Both of those just made me laugh
James

13. May, 2011

Chaos Canyon will be the hot spot again once the snow melts, this “new” area does need a lot of love, and if locals have been climbing it for a long time, well where are there lines they put up, everything I have touched from V4 -Vproject has needed some type of cleaning love, the scene is not that nasty, the energy is amazing, yes there are cameras everywhere, but to say the “silver lining” at the end to sell forgotten crashpads on craigslist is very shady and wrong, remember we are ALL climbers here and the climbing community is very small, so I have learned to learn how to respect the different views of climbers and accept them.
B3

13. May, 2011

@J Seaver
You quote me as saying “discovered”, when if you read the post, I used the word “rediscovered” and not the word “discovered” in a nod to the early developers Paul Otis and Jim Belcer. I didn’t write this post until I contacted Paul in an attempt to get as much info as possible and so I could include their names and any problems they have done. It is not my intention to disregard the efforts of those who were previously there. I also thought that by writing
“If anyone has any info about problems that were established in previous years, or have been recently established, feel free to post comments!”
other climbers who have climbed there in the past would be encouraged to share their info, so that any new problems that were reclimbed would not be considered FAs. Thankfully Paul Otis, who found the area, was happy to share all kinds of information with me.

Your lack of double digit sending isn’t inconsequential, but it has left many of the best problems unclimbed. In fact several new classics less than V10 were apparently uncleaned, and unclimbed.

Don’t forget it was Dave Graham who nearly single handedly developed Chaos Canyon (a place you perhaps wouldn’t have visited without his hard work and vision), and now he has returned to a place he loves and found more new boulders to climb on. And I would consider them new, as they were extremely dirty in some cases.

I am sorry you don’t like it that more people are going there, it is a National Park, which is set up for the enjoyment of the public, and everyone has a right to be there.

I don’t take my shirt off when I climb, usually, and none of the climbers depicted in the post have their shirts off. That kind of stereo type is borderline archaic and unfortunate to read. The scene has been supremely motivating and I am happy to be a part of it and happy to share with others who love climbing like I do. I think everyone who has been going up there of late would feel the same. I would be happy to include any FA’s you did (please provide the name and the grade) in the guide I am currently working on to the area.
James

13. May, 2011

jamie, were you putting your comment towards mine? or j seaver? I have tried to read all the comments carefully and I think its pointed to j not James correct? I think it is very respectful you waited to get all the information that you could from the locals before posting about it. I think that J calling out climbers like that is very rude and bad for the sport of climbing, lets all just remember, all we are doing is climbing some rocks…..
Flashgordon

15. May, 2011

Jamie, you have my email I assume. Most of the areas I’m developing are still in the snow for another couple weeks. Shoot me an email.
Gus Moser

15. May, 2011

Umm.. my friend just told me u had this blog Jamie.. Cool.. I can see theirs some hate already. thats sad.. Whats up with just going climbing and having fun.

It would be cool if the first people who came gave us their info so we could know the history of this small but very nice area.

Well man. ill be checking out wats goin on.. also i have pics sometimes that i could donate if u like…

Im psyked for cleaning more stuff there and putting more lines for all levels of climbers to safely enjoy. And ++ on the recreational park argument… wat is it with people not wanting to share some roks. if u need to be alone, maybe stay at home.

Im glad the area was rediscovered and those have been some cool days on the rocks, nothing more, nothing less.

Venga.
J Seaver

15. May, 2011

James, you are indeed correct: all we are doing is climbing rocks. Little ones, in this instance. Silly, no doubt, but apparently not too silly to splash on the internet. And when you publish silly stuff on the internet, you can expect dissenting remarks. I too, try to respect others’ viewpoints, but sometimes I strongly disagree and cannot accept them. My viewpoint on stashing crashpads happens to be very similar to that of the National Park Service. It’s un ugly, lazy man’s practice that will not be tolerated. So if you want to talk about something that is “bad for the sport of climbing”, then now you’ve found it. Those of us that live, and work for a living, in this community would be pretty bummed if the NPS decided to regulate climbing at our local crags and boulderfields due to some boulderers’ aversion to CARRYING THEIR SHIT back to their car. Whether you agree with this or not, is insignificant. The Park Service has spoken on the issue, and defying them can only lead to a breakdown in climbers’ relations with them.

B3, while I assume your intentions are good, your post has some glaring misinformation. And your sureness of yourself is unfounded. While I’ll be the first to admit that who found what when is patently unimportant, since you are publishing information about it, we should attempt to keep the record straight. Jim Belcer and Dean Potter visited the bouldering off of Old Fall River Road (Endo Valley) in the mid 90’s, but didn’t do much as their focus was on the Emerald Lake boulders at the time. In 2003, Nate Arganbright and Joe Vallone rediscovered the area and spent many days bouldering there that summer and the next. They reintroduced Belcer to the Klettergarden in 2005 (as we’ve called it over the years), and only then was Paul Otis made aware of its existence. That summer, several crashpads and a LADDER were found stashed up there. Very indiscreetly, I might add. I’m not saying Paul was responsible for that; I don’t know. There were several new faces up there that summer.
As for Chaos Canyon, a lot of people would be very surprised to hear you say Dave Graham developed it nearly singlehandedly. He undoubtedly was a big part of it, but many, many others made huge contributions. In fact, it was Mike Caldwell that originally suggested bouldering up there (that’s the vision you speak of); and Tommy Caldwell, Topher Donahue, Jim Belcer and Dean Potter got it all started.

You guys may think I’m making a big deal out of nothing, but if it were a special, quiet place in your backyard that was getting hyped with false information on the interwebs, you may think differently.
big poppa chosscrush

15. May, 2011

seems like all of you have forgotton that when i’m out of town or not able to climb, climbing ceases to exist. therefore, anything that i try whenever i can check this place out (aka discover it) will be an FA.

muhahaahahahaha
cardboard_dog

15. May, 2011

@ James …. I remember when I “discovered” the switchback boulders at Mt. Evans. I called tendon and asked him how many problems he and J had done there and he said pretty much all of them. And J was still climbing there on a regular basis after work.

If you know the switchback boulders than you know they are completely moss and lichen covered, and if you left them alone for a season it would look like like they had never been climbed at all. A boulder needing cleaning is a terrible indicator. Some people’s ethic is to climb the boulder with the absolute minimal of cleaning possible.
cardboard_dog

15. May, 2011

uhh .. I was refering to a completely different J than this J seaver cat BTW ..
Crafty

15. May, 2011

Didn’t the whole crashpad debate get beaten to death ^10 like 4 years ago? I think we’ve moved past that already. Most people aren’t stashing pads anymore. Sorry J Seaver. Also, it’s great that you know and list all the folks who developed these areas, but you don’t really back up your claim of “huge contributions.” No doubt, the folks you list are great climbers and well respected, but I think Dave climbed WAY more FA’s than they did. I’m probably wrong though. Sorry man, I don’t really get why you’re being so hostile. Peace.
B3

15. May, 2011

@Seaver

“B3, while I assume your intentions are good, your post has some glaring misinformation. And your sureness of yourself is unfounded. While I’ll be the first to admit that who found what when is patently unimportant, since you are publishing information about it, we should attempt to keep the record straight. Jim Belcer and Dean Potter visited the bouldering off of Old Fall River Road (Endo Valley) in the mid 90’s, but didn’t do much as their focus was on the Emerald Lake boulders at the time. In 2003, Nate Arganbright and Joe Vallone rediscovered the area and spent many days bouldering there that summer and the next. They reintroduced Belcer to the Klettergarden in 2005 (as we’ve called it over the years), and only then was Paul Otis made aware of its existence. That summer, several crashpads and a LADDER were found stashed up there. Very indiscreetly, I might add. I’m not saying Paul was responsible for that; I don’t know. There were several new faces up there that summer.”

This is exactly the kind of information I was looking for. Thanks for sharing. I was hoping to get even more detailed information about problem names and grades. I would love to hear about the specific problems Nate, Joe, and Jim developed. Perhaps you could share that information here for everyone?

“As for Chaos Canyon, a lot of people would be very surprised to hear you say Dave Graham developed it nearly singlehandedly. He undoubtedly was a big part of it, but many, many others made huge contributions. In fact, it was Mike Caldwell that originally suggested bouldering up there (that’s the vision you speak of); and Tommy Caldwell, Topher Donahue, Jim Belcer and Dean Potter got it all started”

I have in the guidebook that Mike Caldwell was the one who found Chaos Canyon. I talked to Tommy and got an essay from him about some of the history of the early bouldering. He mentioned that Nick Sagar, Brian Capps and Herm Fiessner were the ones who were there at first. Certainly Dean, Jim and Topher were also there. I’m not sure who the “many, many others who made huge contributions” are? Perhaps you can give specific examples of problems and names?

“You guys may think I’m making a big deal out of nothing, but if it were a special, quiet place in your backyard that was getting hyped with false information on the interwebs, you may think differently.”

I was hoping to hear about people or problems that had previously been climbed. I wrote “If anyone has any info about problems that were established in previous years, or have been recently established, feel free to post comments!” for the very reason that I would hope that people like you would share this kind of information. Thanks for your help.
Again, everyone has the right to be in the National Park.
Jabroni

15. May, 2011

Nono B3 wrong reply.

‘You guys may think I’m making a big deal out of nothing’

Yep.
michael

16. May, 2011

who knows, that area was possibly climbed at by Dave Dornan in the 70′s
J Seaver

16. May, 2011

Jabroni……I’d be willing to bet a “big deal” for you is your mom making you get up before noon and telling you (again) to stop playing with dolls.

B3, you seem to have more sense. But you’re missing my point entirely. I just don’t like this blogging thing, about every piece of rock you touch; it’s so tacky and self-indulgent. My friends and I have no interest in reporting our ascents. We’re just going pebbling when our real-life responsibilities keep us from actually going climbing. I don’t want to contribute to your “guide”; have fun with that. But your assertion that this climbing thing is all about hanging with friends, and the great energy involved, is so hollow. If that was really the case for you, why would you want to spend you’re time maintaining this blog. Seems like word-of -mouth is working just fine. Do we really need to inundate the area with MORE people?

Yeah, it’s just my opinion. But it’s one worth considering.
sticcs

16. May, 2011

J Seaver, I have visited the boulders at Endo Valley over the past few weekends and am very thankful and excited that the place has resurfaced due to Jamie’s, Dave’s, Ian’s, Chad’s, and everyone’s efforts and generosity. The area has been filled with great energy and many people enjoying themselves and climbing. These boulders are in a national park and are there for anyone and everyone to enjoy. This is not your backyard. Sorry. Jamie blogs because he goes out climbing, genuinely enjoys it, and wants others to as well. I used to sit in Illinois and read this sites and many others with only dreams of going out climbing every weekend. B3 kept me informed and motivated. Thanks Jamie. Anyway, if you have such an issue with blogs and live such a busy, “real” life then why are you spending so much time bickering on them about how you’re more worthy than others to go to amazing places like Endo. Also, Jamie and the rest of us are curious about the things there that were climbed in the past. It’s funny how you held your information over his head but backed down when he asked for more details. Pretty tacky and self-indulgent of you. I see you as a hollow, elitist prick who is too cool to actually enjoy climbing, no matter what it entails.
sweatpants

16. May, 2011

I love reading this blog Seaver and enjoy hearing about things going on with Jamie and his friends.

Jamie, you should be commended for your patience with this guy and staying constructive. You are a better man than I sir.

Keep up the good work!

John Freaney
michael

16. May, 2011

“My friends and I have no interest in reporting our ascents.”

“WE’re just going pebbling when our real-life responsibilities keep us from actually going climbing.”

keep up the good work
big poppa chosscrush

16. May, 2011

there are plenty of secret areas to be had all to one’s self in the distant backcountry of colorado, if that’s the desire. hell, there’s plenty of joints in existing guidebooks that don’t see chalk in most years, let alone weekens or after work.

if the locust swarm has found your private stash close to the road, it’s best to share information and psych, or, just walk away silently.

i’ve been on both sides of this table and feel the above is as basic and true as possible.

but don’t despair, locals, the locust swarm will soon move on to greener pastures once it has had its fill from your kluttergarten and quiet days will be yet again upon you.

i agree though that all areas need to be kept clean. tragedy of the commons and whatnot.
DNeuf

16. May, 2011

http://xkcd.com/386
michael

16. May, 2011

B3, you were just trolled for the 500th time this month

rule of thumb, dont feed the trolls
B3

16. May, 2011

@DNeuf I’m glad to know someone who reads this blog also follows xkcd.
J Seaver

16. May, 2011

Fair enough. You’ve driven me off your little bouldering blog. I knew I wouldn’t last long. At least I inspired someone to call me a prick…that’s somewhat satisfying.
And yes……I am still right, and you are all wrong.
Carry on……..
B3

16. May, 2011

@ J Seaver
I am not driving you anywhere and I am not sure what you think I have done to drive you away. I was hoping you would help me by contributing the names, grades and descriptions (which is all I asked for) for the problems that I was unaware of. I have tried to include you in the discussion. The offer will always stand that you are more than welcome to contribute your information to the history of the place. You seemed to be more knowledgeable, and I was only trying to give you a chance to share that knowledge with everyone.
DuBois

17. May, 2011

Everyone on this thread is missing Seavers’ point. Some hard shit went undocumented here, because you know what? Little rock climbs are very forgettable….Bunch of slack-jawed,”uber-stoked”, beta hungry, little douches. Please, don’t turn every fucking boulder into “the next big thing”.Leave something to the imagination, and to nature
B3

17. May, 2011

@Dubois

You wrote: “Everyone on this thread is missing Seavers’ point. Some hard shit went undocumented here, because you know what? Little rock climbs are very forgettable”

I am confused because Seaver wrote: “You guys may think I’m making a big deal out of nothing, but if it were a special, quiet place in your backyard that was getting hyped with false information on the interwebs, you may think differently.”

So is it:
A: I am making too big a deal out of nothing, because boulders are small and insignificant.
B: I am not providing accurate information of the history of the area.

In regards to A, bouldering is one of the most important parts of my life. I have dedicated thousands of hours and dollars to travel the world to climb as many problems as I can. It is such an amazing thing for me to have. I’m not sure why I don’t have the right to make it as important as I would like. Part of my love for the activity is having the ability to share my knowledge (and let others with more or better knowledge share theirs as well) with like-minded participants, so that I can learn as much about it as possible. I would hope, that after 3 years of thoughtful, dedicated bouldering and blogging, you would see my approach as more than being a “slack-jawed and uber-stoked beta hungry little douche”. No one is forcing you or asking you to visit the site.

In regards to B, I have asked a number of times for more and better information, to try to get the most accurate picture of the history of the area, and again, the offer stands. My interest is information, not in personal attacks.
Jabroni

17. May, 2011

I really find this offensive.

Please don’t take some high and mighty tone like you’re a trad climber ground-up onsighting every line at Yosemite. Bouldering is not exactly filled with wild and majestic epic adventures. Even if you were the epitome of adventure, it wouldn’t make you right.

To spend all of your time telling others that their style of climbing is bad (whether it’s trad, bouldering etc or just the fact they don’t boulder YOUR WAY) is not only a waste of time, it shows how incredibly narrow-minded you are.

If you want a back-yard with beautiful, untouched and unhyped problems, build a woody. But like Jamie said: the rocks don’t have owners. You are both wasting your time, and can’t even seem to agree on a point in the first place. Is it ‘don’t touch my precious boulders with your nasty camera’ or ‘make sure you record all my V1 climbs’??
J Seaver

17. May, 2011

Hey hey, I’m back! Did you miss me?
B3, you didn’t personally drive me off your blog. It was more your followers, and my realization that I was getting nowhere. Like a Pagan talking to a bunch of Romans. But……..it’s a moot point. Here I am.
I think I can sum up my stance. Jabroni, I’m glad you’re offended. You sound like someone I would be remiss NOT to offend. A real jackass. But to answer your last question, I choose the former: don’t touch my precious boulders with your nasty cameras. (I do understand they’re not MY boulders though, unfortunately.)
B3, I don’t want to help you. I don’t like what you are doing. I got involved in order to correct you. I’m like the guy on the xkcd webite, for sure. I see someone reporting false information on the Internet, I tend to attempt to correct it. Especially if it’s about something special to me. You can rename, and upgrade, anything I ever did up there. I couldn’t care less. But when you make such ignorant statements like “maybe some of the Colorado locals could step up and do some developing”, it tends to get my hackles up. Like you guys are such visionary pioneers traveling around “finding” “new” areas for the lowly locals to chip away at.
Again, I’m not trying to help you. I hope your guide sucks and noone ever comes to the Klettergarden on Old Fall River Road again. As justified as you feel you are in hyping a quiet little local area, I am equally justified in thinking you are doing a bad thing.
Maybe you guys could make one concession: if you are in need of tick marks, scrub em off when you leave.
Adam M

18. May, 2011

I was following that thread pretty well for a while. Sounded like a great discussion throughout between two rock climbers with different opinions spoken out about an area. Just talkin like people do.

Went pretty well for a while, but seems you kinda lost your patience there Weaver and went the way of DuBois and Jabroni. Damn. Little shitty to wish someone’s hard work sucks eh? Come on man.

Sorry about the area you’ve been climbing in for years (happens to everyone out there trust me.), good thing CO has a ton more areas to find and not tell anyone about. Few more around the Kletter too…
Go find em.
justin

18. May, 2011

Kinda funny how in J Seaver’s last post he did something that Jamie never did, reveal the location of this area. Sure, beforehand I knew before hand it was in Rocky Mountain National Park, but that’s a pretty big place. Thanks to J Seaver’s insider information and a quick google search I know exactly where to go on Old Fall River Road.

I can’t wait to bring my big bucket of chalk (for ticking of course) and my ipod (with speakers) to the boulders so I can ruin his day.
KLYMER101

18. May, 2011

JAMIE EMERSON IS AWESOME
TK

18. May, 2011

The word is out…so now help add your knowledge to better fill out the area and history…or don’t, people are still going to climb there.

You can’t have it both ways… bitching about the ‘misinformation’ but refusing to correct it…pretty damn silly…perhaps you just don’t have anything to add???

Publish or perish…
Chuck

18. May, 2011

Jamie is my hero. He should be the #1 investigative reporter in climbing. Do it Jamie, do it.
NateA

18. May, 2011

Is it really that hard to see why a local might be upset about all this? Too many people hanging out in a small area = high impact. Unfortunately, this is all to commonplace at most bouldering areas as a result of lots of people lingering in one area dragging pads around and a very liberal use of chalk. My guess would be that if I visited Endovalley this afternoon already the impact would be drastic compared to the last visit I made, prior to the area recieving publicity. I find this sad, but expected it would happen eventually with the lack an approach guarding this area. In years past when bouldering up there we didn’t see the need to report anything we were doing as it seemed inconsequential, we wanted to protect the serenity of this beautiful area and we were just bouldering to train for bigger things.