However my concern is leaving the boulders at: C,D, E, The Aerials, and Lincoln Lake out may cause even more problems.

People know that these areas exist and once they get comfortable with Areas A/B they will most likely want to explore these other areas. Without them detailed in the guidebook the potential for more social trails, more people wandering around loss, etc continues to increase.

At minimum I would expect topos of those areas with disclaimers on why they are not included.

Or hopefully you can come to some consensus on what is the proper access for those areas with the rangers (even if it is not the best/most popular route today) and include the detailed topos even if you do not include specific problem info.

It just feels that if those areas are left out, people are still going to make the trek to those areas (using their own access methods) and could probably create more issues in the future.

Anyways just my 2 cents.

John Freaney

A few comments about his concerns (A-F):
A. Hopefully, this problem has been resolved due to our heated discussions and the disappearance of stashed pads in seasons gone by.
B. Cutting down trees has not really ever been a problem that I’m aware of. Trails were blazed through the scrub willows early on, but these merely need to be maintained to allow passage through them.
C. This situation has improved, but we – as a user group – can do better. Respect the landowner’s privacy and desire for solitude. We all know the loopole for Clear Creek County residents and the City of Idaho Springs … it doesn’t mean we have to have a key to the gate. What’s wrong with walking 3 or 4 miles in to warm up and improve our fitness once or twice a week?
D. That’s positive!, although I’m not sure what the “few simple things” are. I guess he’s talking about the concerns voiced in A-C, E and F.
E. Keeping the impacts to existing trails is difficult, but all visitors can do their part by staying on existing social trails as much as possible. Overhead topos of existing and preferred social trails should be provided in the guide. In addition, it’s largely up to the regulars. Instead of all of us going around that puddle in the middle of the trail and inevitably widening the trail or creating a new one, we need to spend a few minutes figuring out a way to divert the water away from the trail or across the trail.
F. Damn, that’s positive stuff JE! Now, it’s your job to educate the masses about proper wilderness etiquette at and around the boulders. This includes bouldering ethics as well as other backcountry behavior. Strongly encouraging folks to not camp in the middle of or on top of the boulders. If an overnight trip is planned, camp a few minutes away and not on the main trail where hikers, rangers, etc. can see you in the morning.

Just my 2 cents – chipper