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	<description>Jamie Emerson</description>
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		<title>By: OBdizzy</title>
		<link>http://www.b3bouldering.com/2009/10/26/free-solo-ing/comment-page-1/#comment-47098</link>
		<dc:creator>OBdizzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignore that last post please, posted without reading good, and voila, an irrelevant turd, that I can&#039;t make go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignore that last post please, posted without reading good, and voila, an irrelevant turd, that I can&#8217;t make go away.</p>
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		<title>By: OBdizzy</title>
		<link>http://www.b3bouldering.com/2009/10/26/free-solo-ing/comment-page-1/#comment-47072</link>
		<dc:creator>OBdizzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure he&#039;s talking about this, not sure why he&#039;s being so cryptic.

http://www.planetfear.com/blog.php?id=77</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s talking about this, not sure why he&#8217;s being so cryptic.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.planetfear.com/blog.php?id=77" rel="nofollow">http://www.planetfear.com/blog.php?id=77</a></p>
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		<title>By: B3</title>
		<link>http://www.b3bouldering.com/2009/10/26/free-solo-ing/comment-page-1/#comment-46972</link>
		<dc:creator>B3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shawn, are you claiming to have free soloed Supernova?  I am interested in honest and accurate information.  Suggesting that you know who it is but that you are unwilling to share does little to advance the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shawn, are you claiming to have free soloed Supernova?  I am interested in honest and accurate information.  Suggesting that you know who it is but that you are unwilling to share does little to advance the discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn D</title>
		<link>http://www.b3bouldering.com/2009/10/26/free-solo-ing/comment-page-1/#comment-46960</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it has been soloed before. If you don&#039;t know by who, and they don&#039;t want to make a big deal about it, I will not mention their name. Not everyone needs to self promote themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it has been soloed before. If you don&#8217;t know by who, and they don&#8217;t want to make a big deal about it, I will not mention their name. Not everyone needs to self promote themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Maxim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maxim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Respectfully, when and by whom?

I would be EXTREMELY surprised if that was the case...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Respectfully, when and by whom?</p>
<p>I would be EXTREMELY surprised if that was the case&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dooped</title>
		<link>http://www.b3bouldering.com/2009/10/26/free-solo-ing/comment-page-1/#comment-46664</link>
		<dc:creator>Dooped</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This route has been soloed before, just thought that was an interesting piece of information that has been left out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This route has been soloed before, just thought that was an interesting piece of information that has been left out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ed keller</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed keller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@max
really appreciate you posting  here and elsewhere online  in a very levelheaded way. i saw the video, read your posts, and had a few things to say. 

_ you seem to have really learned from the experience, that takes real thinking, effort, etc. so congrats on that. 

_ there are a number of folks who solo. and a small handful who solo very hard. A. Huber comes to mind among others. The reasons for doing this are numerous, and separating ego from it is quite difficult. 
one of the other posts here questioned why we celebrate the free soloist. It is a macabre celebration because we all know how thin the line is when freesoloing. the hardest thing I ever onsight soloed was easy 5.10, with sinker locks. I was about 18 years old and thought nothing of it. in retrospect, well, I was very lucky. I met Derek Hersey once in Eldorado when I was 16, and watched him soloing something on the Bastille if I recall correctly. I was amazed, scared, and a  part of me wanted to do something like it. 
in some ways it is unavoidable. it is the responsibility of climbers who are older, more experienced, who KNOW, to let the younger/less experienced know what the consequences are. 
_ on that note, max, *you* are lucky. count your blessings, a broken leg is getting off easy.  

_ the films that show people surviving these efforts are truly amazing, and I second the observation that they may amplify the tendency of folks who are susceptible to media, fame, desire, to go soloing. It is inevitable. in my opinion this makes it even more important for folks who do solo- whether Max who posts very honestly about it, or Honnold, or Huber, or Steph Davis- to continue discussing it publicly and making sure everyone knows the truth about how sketchy it can be, and what really happens when one blows it. 

_finally, @ max again:  when i started climbing at the age of 15 i broke my leg in a groundfall almost straight away, zippering gear. so watching your video was like a bad case of dejavu, man! I totally empathize.  but I survived and climbed again right away. In fact was on my bachar ladder that summer with the cast on. thru that experience i earned some much needed sensibility. so- you&#039;ll climb again and most likely better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@max<br />
really appreciate you posting  here and elsewhere online  in a very levelheaded way. i saw the video, read your posts, and had a few things to say. </p>
<p>_ you seem to have really learned from the experience, that takes real thinking, effort, etc. so congrats on that. </p>
<p>_ there are a number of folks who solo. and a small handful who solo very hard. A. Huber comes to mind among others. The reasons for doing this are numerous, and separating ego from it is quite difficult.<br />
one of the other posts here questioned why we celebrate the free soloist. It is a macabre celebration because we all know how thin the line is when freesoloing. the hardest thing I ever onsight soloed was easy 5.10, with sinker locks. I was about 18 years old and thought nothing of it. in retrospect, well, I was very lucky. I met Derek Hersey once in Eldorado when I was 16, and watched him soloing something on the Bastille if I recall correctly. I was amazed, scared, and a  part of me wanted to do something like it.<br />
in some ways it is unavoidable. it is the responsibility of climbers who are older, more experienced, who KNOW, to let the younger/less experienced know what the consequences are.<br />
_ on that note, max, *you* are lucky. count your blessings, a broken leg is getting off easy.  </p>
<p>_ the films that show people surviving these efforts are truly amazing, and I second the observation that they may amplify the tendency of folks who are susceptible to media, fame, desire, to go soloing. It is inevitable. in my opinion this makes it even more important for folks who do solo- whether Max who posts very honestly about it, or Honnold, or Huber, or Steph Davis- to continue discussing it publicly and making sure everyone knows the truth about how sketchy it can be, and what really happens when one blows it. </p>
<p>_finally, @ max again:  when i started climbing at the age of 15 i broke my leg in a groundfall almost straight away, zippering gear. so watching your video was like a bad case of dejavu, man! I totally empathize.  but I survived and climbed again right away. In fact was on my bachar ladder that summer with the cast on. thru that experience i earned some much needed sensibility. so- you&#8217;ll climb again and most likely better.</p>
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		<title>By: B3</title>
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		<dc:creator>B3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chuck  I don&#039;t know that there are right or wrong reasons for climbing, or soloing.  I don&#039;t know that there is any morality associated with climbing.  It&#039;s hard to deny that someone who makes a living from sponsors and appearances in climbing movies doesn&#039;t feel any pull to perform for the camera.  I am sure any number of free soloists who felt &quot;justified&quot; or that they were climbing from a place of &quot;purity&quot; have fallen and died, and I am sure free soloists who did it purely for stunt or fame have escaped unharmed. I also think there is an issue that younger, inexperienced climbers wanting to emulate their heroes try soloing and get seriously hurt or killed.  It is certainly a complex and heavy issue and there are no clear answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chuck  I don&#8217;t know that there are right or wrong reasons for climbing, or soloing.  I don&#8217;t know that there is any morality associated with climbing.  It&#8217;s hard to deny that someone who makes a living from sponsors and appearances in climbing movies doesn&#8217;t feel any pull to perform for the camera.  I am sure any number of free soloists who felt &#8220;justified&#8221; or that they were climbing from a place of &#8220;purity&#8221; have fallen and died, and I am sure free soloists who did it purely for stunt or fame have escaped unharmed. I also think there is an issue that younger, inexperienced climbers wanting to emulate their heroes try soloing and get seriously hurt or killed.  It is certainly a complex and heavy issue and there are no clear answers.</p>
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		<title>By: chuffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you haven&#039;t seen the Siberian free soloing video before featuring Jonathan and Brittany, it is an amazing look at a fascinating culture. I&#039;d seen it before, but thanks for the link above. I enjoyed watching it again.

Not sure what else there is to say about this. I think there is certainly room for free soloing (30+ feet) in our climbing culture, but it is important to do it for the right reasons in good, if not perfect, conditions with full realization of what the impacts will be on our lives and those of our friends and family if things go horribly wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you haven&#8217;t seen the Siberian free soloing video before featuring Jonathan and Brittany, it is an amazing look at a fascinating culture. I&#8217;d seen it before, but thanks for the link above. I enjoyed watching it again.</p>
<p>Not sure what else there is to say about this. I think there is certainly room for free soloing (30+ feet) in our climbing culture, but it is important to do it for the right reasons in good, if not perfect, conditions with full realization of what the impacts will be on our lives and those of our friends and family if things go horribly wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: B3</title>
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		<dc:creator>B3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreeance most certainly is a word OBdizzy, and I would argue that if it is in the dictionary, and its usage here is understood, then it is not obsolete.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/agreeance

Agreement would probably have been better, but thanks, I always encourage people to question each other (and grades, ascents, beauty, etc.) I think it is a great way to learn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreeance most certainly is a word OBdizzy, and I would argue that if it is in the dictionary, and its usage here is understood, then it is not obsolete.<br />
<a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/agreeance" rel="nofollow">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/agreeance</a></p>
<p>Agreement would probably have been better, but thanks, I always encourage people to question each other (and grades, ascents, beauty, etc.) I think it is a great way to learn.</p>
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