Comments on: Mt. Evans

By: chris schulte

chris schulte — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:44:03 +0000

Jamie, I appreciate that, I suppose. Again, one-on-one is nice and usually civil. Seems like SOME goals were accomplished, and no-one is the better for it.
Bennett, I don’t know you, and I can’t go any further in painting a clearer picture as to why I was upset concerning this issue. I didn’t find a semi-legal way to go up the road, I found a legal one; I didn’t have to look hard, folks have known about it for a long time. Being friendly goes a long way in the world. Can’t say I see any fault to admit to there.
Pleased to meet you. Now, years from now, when we’re having pina coladas and getting caught in the rain, we can say we met over the internet.
Jamie, thanks again for the opportunity to do whatever it is we’ve done here. I can’t help but wish we had covered similar ground in the past, and now, I am somewhat ashamed. I feel like I got pushed into a fight, and again, this “community” is a little worse for wear, rather than moving onwards and upwards, and always twirling! twirling! towards the center.
Thanks for watching. Go climbing instead.

By: peter b

peter b — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:02:57 +0000

Jamie, that’s a good way (and time )to wrap up this controversy. Good work everyone!

By: cbd

cbd — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 03:29:40 +0000

almost as good as the maury povich show. does everyone know who their baby daddy is?

small point .. Although it is always in the best interests of any user group to show the best face possible, to be conscientious and show respect .. appeasement has never proven to be in anyones best interest in the long run. Being singled out as a less favorable user group than say .. fishermen? is almost as retarded as saying “thousands of people can walk up and down these stairs every day but skateboarding on them is OUT of the question.”

By: B3

B3 — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 01:52:13 +0000

Chris, of course my method could be questioned, and that’s exactly what you did, which I encouraged. Maybe I am right, or maybe not. I took the picture off out of respect.

By: chris schulte

chris schulte — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:06:02 +0000

Well sir,
I appreciate your candor in the matter to some degree. I’m not sure that it’s a fair assumption to think I was breaking the law. Anyone COULD have the right to be parked up there, no-one deserves to be singled out in such a manner, and only The Authorities have the prerogative to question anyone. It is easy to act passionately when it concerns something we all feel strongly about, and I admire your ethical stances in several departments, but there is a time, place and method for discussions like these, and other topics of contention. Face to face, maybe a small group, maybe over beers, or maybe something more solid. Facts are, there is still a photo of personal property on your site as an example of something that is illegal. It seems prudent to take the obvious course of action, edit your content, and next time consider a few deep breaths before pulling out the soapbox. I didn’t GET singled out, this is your website, and you are responsible for it’s content. On a related note, I appreciate being allowed to speak my mind.
Thanks.

By: sock hands

sock hands — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:21:47 +0000

word. just to clarify: my point was not to say that chris should have to hike, since he’s done the legal leg-work, but that everyone needs to realize how his van came to be parked where it was…. navigating administration… not gate crashing.

though at the cost of more internet drama, i think the ‘debate’ has made the situation very very clear with respect to the road.

wader: yes: v8 all day long…. especially for those with bigger feet than i…who cannot get them to dig into the deeper, more positive spots of the crack.

By: Bennett

Bennett — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:06:44 +0000

Classic. I wondered why Mr Schulte was getting so bent on this one.
So you got called out for being a lazy-ass,
and you can’t even admit a little bit of fault?

wow. Hope you send your proj Chris!
cause thats all that really matters anyways.

I mean for real, lets get all this passive-aggressive stuff out of the way.
You wanted to haul pads, save energy, whatever for your climbing day/sending your proj.
So you found a semi-legal way to drive up the private road.
JE called you out, and now you don’t like it.
Tough! this is the beauty of the internet.
You got busted, plain and simple.

Lets all learn from this by realizing one truth,
People who drive up the road are all lazy!

By: wade david

wade david — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 04:11:03 +0000

Yeah JJ I did! Because I hate 8A.NU (mainly because there are a lot of cry babies trying to take the hardest grade on that site, everyone else is cool ) and I said that to get under some skin, but I truly beileve it is no harder or easyer than V8. What do you think about that ? Huh?

By: B3

B3 — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:12:00 +0000

Chris, of course I wouldn’t have posted a picture of a fisherman’s van, because fisherman haven’t jeopordized the bouldering at Mt. Evans. It was a fair assumption that as a resident of Boulder you were there illegally, as I know you have been in past, as have I.
As a sponsored climber, it is irresponsible not to take every precaution possible and to not use my website as a forum for discussion of important issues like these. My methods are debatable.
I am sorry you got singled out, but of course I let you speak your mind. I am psyched about this open dialouge and I am sure alot of people have learned more about this issue, both from your posts and mine. Hopefully that is something positive.we can both take from this.
Jaeger thanks for posting, you are always thoughtful and intelligent.

By: peter b

peter b — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:14:26 +0000

Not that Tommy is a conservative grader or anything…