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	<title>Comments on: Joe&#8217;s Valley</title>
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	<description>Jamie Emerson</description>
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		<title>By: B3</title>
		<link>http://www.b3bouldering.com/2009/04/20/joes-valley-14/comment-page-1/#comment-35900</link>
		<dc:creator>B3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 13:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dom. I would love to show you around CO if you ever make it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dom. I would love to show you around CO if you ever make it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Dom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 05:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, i guess, i was just really bummed that it broke, and got my panties all in a bunch...  
a point worth raising for sure..
yeah man, the campfires were fun... crush in SA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, i guess, i was just really bummed that it broke, and got my panties all in a bunch&#8230;<br />
a point worth raising for sure..<br />
yeah man, the campfires were fun&#8230; crush in SA!</p>
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		<title>By: B3</title>
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		<dc:creator>B3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not trying to be so accusatory, I just want to remind everyone to be conscience of it, that&#039;s all. Nice to meet you though Dom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not trying to be so accusatory, I just want to remind everyone to be conscience of it, that&#8217;s all. Nice to meet you though Dom.</p>
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		<title>By: Dom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 01:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was also there, and im going to go ahead and add that it was not climbed on the day after a rainstorm.  but after a snowstorm.  and the climb was protected by a tarp. and the climb is pretty darn overhung... it was dry.
it is true that 6+ people were there... and no one made mention of any suspect holds at all..  which shows at least that it was NOT plainly obvious that the problem shouldn&#039;t be climbed on. 
based on empirical evidence, im going to speculate the break was due to the nature by which it was being pulled on... not the timing of the most recent &quot;torrent&quot; of precipitation..    the hold was incut and a very strong climber was trying to flash the problem and was puling out on the hold.
enough said..  we all climbed that day..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was also there, and im going to go ahead and add that it was not climbed on the day after a rainstorm.  but after a snowstorm.  and the climb was protected by a tarp. and the climb is pretty darn overhung&#8230; it was dry.<br />
it is true that 6+ people were there&#8230; and no one made mention of any suspect holds at all..  which shows at least that it was NOT plainly obvious that the problem shouldn&#8217;t be climbed on.<br />
based on empirical evidence, im going to speculate the break was due to the nature by which it was being pulled on&#8230; not the timing of the most recent &#8220;torrent&#8221; of precipitation..    the hold was incut and a very strong climber was trying to flash the problem and was puling out on the hold.<br />
enough said..  we all climbed that day..</p>
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		<title>By: Watchdog</title>
		<link>http://www.b3bouldering.com/2009/04/20/joes-valley-14/comment-page-1/#comment-35806</link>
		<dc:creator>Watchdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 01:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, I have seen a few of the complainers climbing at Joe&#039;s the day after a good rain so we can all say that we wouldn&#039;t do this or that in retrospect, but people make mistakes so lets not get too upset.  I was there the day the knocking room broke.  There were more than 6 people trying the problem and even campusing onto the hold that eventually broke and into the next move without breaking it.  Unfortunately the hold was far too incut for its surrounding support and sandstone does not always hold such features for long whether the rock is wet or not.  I have seen many &quot;newer&quot; sandstone problems break, such is the nature of rock. After inspection of the broken hold it was snapped in half with no effort at all.  Regardless of this fact, it is not acceptable to climb after a heavy rain especially on sandstone.  However, on the brighter side of things the knocking room is now probably 8b which will keep you strongmen busy.  Enjoy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, I have seen a few of the complainers climbing at Joe&#8217;s the day after a good rain so we can all say that we wouldn&#8217;t do this or that in retrospect, but people make mistakes so lets not get too upset.  I was there the day the knocking room broke.  There were more than 6 people trying the problem and even campusing onto the hold that eventually broke and into the next move without breaking it.  Unfortunately the hold was far too incut for its surrounding support and sandstone does not always hold such features for long whether the rock is wet or not.  I have seen many &#8220;newer&#8221; sandstone problems break, such is the nature of rock. After inspection of the broken hold it was snapped in half with no effort at all.  Regardless of this fact, it is not acceptable to climb after a heavy rain especially on sandstone.  However, on the brighter side of things the knocking room is now probably 8b which will keep you strongmen busy.  Enjoy</p>
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		<title>By: Joe&#8217;s Valley - Day One at the Right Fork &#171; Dream in Vertical</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe&#8217;s Valley - Day One at the Right Fork &#171; Dream in Vertical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not want to harm the fragile sandstone. The delicate nature of these rocks was reinforced by the recent news that the The Knocking Room had broken due to climbing after a rain storm.  After a wonderful [...]</description>
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		<title>By: campusmang</title>
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		<dc:creator>campusmang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 10:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t worry about motivation


if you wanna climb then u wanna climb, and that is being psyched.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t worry about motivation</p>
<p>if you wanna climb then u wanna climb, and that is being psyched.</p>
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		<title>By: B3</title>
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		<dc:creator>B3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ethan, Harry told me he named it Mass Hysteria. I asked him the other day.  I was psyched to repeat it with Ben&#039;s original method, not to spite anyone or prove anything, just because I think it&#039;s neat that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ethan, Harry told me he named it Mass Hysteria. I asked him the other day.  I was psyched to repeat it with Ben&#8217;s original method, not to spite anyone or prove anything, just because I think it&#8217;s neat that way.</p>
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		<title>By: poindexter</title>
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		<dc:creator>poindexter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS- have you tried Jason&#039;s beta on the Blung? WAY easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS- have you tried Jason&#8217;s beta on the Blung? WAY easier.</p>
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		<title>By: poindexter</title>
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		<dc:creator>poindexter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamie, great posts! If I had any motivation to climb I&#039;d be SO psyched! But great pics and vids man, keep everyone psyched.

I thought everyone agreed to call the sit to hooters &#039;tranny surprise&#039; that day harry did it. Where&#039;d you get &#039;Mass Hysteria&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie, great posts! If I had any motivation to climb I&#8217;d be SO psyched! But great pics and vids man, keep everyone psyched.</p>
<p>I thought everyone agreed to call the sit to hooters &#8216;tranny surprise&#8217; that day harry did it. Where&#8217;d you get &#8216;Mass Hysteria&#8217;?</p>
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